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Don Hoke
01-21-2007, 04:49 PM
This is a bit of a fishing expedition. I'm hoping someone may remember what became of the "Dope Bag" award. The following is from a 1940 article.

Dope Bag--Origin, History

The Southwestern Indiana Dope Bag, which Princeton high school received Saturday night by a basketball victory over Jasper in the local gym has an origin and history of unusually interesting nature.
The Dope bag proper is a black satchel inside of which is a black metal box, designating the award started ten years ago by Franklin Hunt, then sports editor of an Evansville newspaper. In the box is a black book, designated as the Dope Bag log, giving the dates of the games played by the possessor in which the award is involved, the names of the winning coach and captain, losing coach and captain, scores of the games, attendance and remarks pertaining to sportsmanship.
With this log is an envelope containing the typewritten law, which lists the rules pertaining to the award.
The law sets out that the Bag is considered an honor to possess and it is hoped to keep it as a tradition in Southwestern Indiana high school basketball play, in creating better sportsmanship among the teams and thus being an award for which for which the teams can fight in addition to victory on the basketball court.
Counties involved
The Bag is not to leave Southwestern Indiana. In order to be eligible to receive it, teams must have at least eight games scheduled with Southwestern Indiana teams and these must be in Vanderburgh, Warrick, Gibson, Pike, DuBois, Perry, Posey or Spencer counties. No other counties are involved thus the bag is not at stake again until Princeton plays at Mt. Vernon on Feb. 10. Teams eligible to receive the bag must be members in good standing in the IHSAA or a similar body such as the state Catholic association.
The Bag is eligible for change only in regularly scheduled games and county tournaments. It is not involved in sectional, regional, semi-state or state tourneys.
The team possessing it must take it to all games involved and if losing, must present it to the captain of the winning team. Each school possessing the Bag must take utmost care in preserving it. The holder at close of the season must maintain it until the opening of the following season schedule and again place it in circulation. Saturday night’s game here was the 120th listed in the Dope Bag log.
Started at Mount Olympus
The Bag was started on November 1, 1929, at Mt. Olympus when that school defeated Union 23 to 6. Charles Robinson was coach and Edmond Daubenspeck was captain of the Mt. Olympus team. The school lost the Bag in game No. 5 at Huntingburg, when the score was 19-16. Glen Traw was coach and Tom Traw was captain of the winning team.
The Hunters kept the award until beaten by Oakland City 18-16 on Dec. 13, 1930. Fred Wilder was coach and Hayes Skidmore was captain of the winning team. The Oakland City Acorns gave up the Bag on Jan. 16, 1931 when beaten by the Petersburg Indians 27-23, but the next week, Petersburg lost to Huntingburg 29-19. Evansville Bosse won the Bag a week later in beating Huntingburg 27-19, and on Feb. 13 of that same year, Bosse lost to Evansville Central 17-10. A notation in the log states that somehow or other, the Bag did not change possession, but Coach Harry King, with a team that went to the semifinal round of the state tourney, asked that it be started again in circulation. Accordingly, Tennyson was awarded the Bag and kept it until losing to the Winslow Eskimos , 26-24 on Feb. 26 1932 at Winslow.
The following night, Huntingburg at home, recaptured the Bag with a 21-16 victory over Winslow. On Dec. 9 1932, Cannelton defeated Huntingburg 25-23 in an overtime battle to claim the Award. Cannelton held the Bag until losing to the Tell City Marksmen 39-28 in the Perry County Tourney Jan. 21, 1933. On Feb. 17, 1933 Evansville Memorial claimed the Bag defeating Tell City 37-27 and on Dec. 9, 1933 Memorial was beaten by Rockport 17-11. Cannelton defeated Rockport 34-26 on Dec. 15, 1933 then lost to Tell City 22-20 on Jan. 20, 1934. Huntingburg later claimed the Bag from Tell City.
Princeton first received the Bag Feb. 23, 1934 beating Huntingburg 23-21 then lost it to Bosse here 24-23 on Jan. 5, 1934. Almost immediately Memorial defeated Bosse 22-18 then Mt. Vernon edged Memorial 20-19.
Huntingburg recaptured the Bag in a 43-34 win at Mt. Vernon on Jan. 31, 1936. It was game No. 82 listed in the log. Ray Scott was coach and Bob Behrens was Captain of the Hunters.
From that date on, Huntingburg held continuous possession of the Bag until Nov. 3, 1939 (game No. 117 in the Dope Bag log) when Jasper, in their new gym, nosed out Huntingburg 31-29 in overtime. The Wildcats kept the Bag against 2 attacks from Tell City until losing to Princeton here Saturday night.

Source: Princeton Clarion Democrat 22, January 1940.

Arn
01-22-2007, 08:00 PM
Do you reckon it is tucked away in some closet in a gym? Maybe the last school changed coaches and the new coach didn't know about it?

This is going to bug me now. I doubt that we'll figure it out, but maybe if a new trophy of some sort would start the rounds again, it would help breathe some life into hoosier hysteria locally.

GCN could sponsor the award, list specific rules like you found in the old Clarion above, and we could track who won it on the web site so that some slackard coach wouldn't stop the tradition.

I can see it now. Someone can get us a large yardsale trophy, we could add our own touch - like some oddity screwed onto the top of it. To keep track of all of the winners of the trophy, it could have a chain on it like the old oaken bucket of the IU/Purdue football rivalry. I bet First Place would gladly furnish the pieces to the chain as PR at the area schools.

Arn
01-22-2007, 08:02 PM
All GCN members that have older relatives that played ball locally pre-WWII needs to ask them if they remember it. We may be able to retrieve some stories about it even if we can't solve the mystery of it's whereabouts.

Jerry D
01-25-2007, 07:09 PM
I was a student manager along with Ronald Malone and Bob Key for the 1960 Princeton basketball team. I dont know if it was that year or in the late 50s when I saw the Dope Bag. I do not remember it being called the Dope Bag but I do remember an old worn out satchel that was passed around and the winner taking it with them. I dont think I ever saw the contents of the satchel. Does the library still keep the Clarion on microfilm? Maybe some info could be found there or at the Clarion. There are a lot of former basketball players from the fifties still around that might remember the satchel. Tom Collins wrote an article in the Evansville paper on February 25th, 1997 about the bag. I did not download the story but he wrote that the satchel started 2weeks after the Depression began and disappeared in January of 1963. That would be a treasuer to find.
Gibson County has a lot of great history that people have never heard of. I think it would be worth it if someone or a group of people could preserve that history. A lot of towns in Indiana do. It would be quite an undertaking but worthwhle for a true sports fan.

Don Hoke
01-27-2007, 06:53 AM
Tom Collins is now retired but gave me a couple of leads to pursue. Thank you all for the replies.

Arn
01-27-2007, 07:28 AM
Don-
Please post back with anything you learn. You have my curiosity up.
Thanks

Don Hoke
01-28-2007, 10:47 AM
Eddie Geis played guard for the Elberfeld Hornets in 1958. He remembers defeating the Holland Dutchmen and receiving the Dope Bag from them.

Don Hoke
02-03-2007, 03:31 PM
Mr. Richeson was coach of the 1965 PHS final 4 team. He remembers the Dope Bag being highly coveted when he was a player, but doesn't know what happened to it.

budho
02-17-2007, 04:24 PM
Princeton won the dope bag in October November or December 1942. Earl Downey was coach and I was acting captain for this game. We only held it for a short time. Who we won it from or where it went from there I don't remember.

queenie
02-21-2007, 05:31 PM
Don...You might get in touch with Kenny Sharp from Owensville,

also a Walter Deal who lives in Florida but has family in Owensville he went by the name of 'Frog" good B.B. player.

Why was it called the Dope Bag?

Daughter of Tall Tree

Don Hoke
02-21-2007, 05:51 PM
Hey Queenie, thanks for the leads. Kenny Sharp took time to show our group through the REH center (Old Kickapoo Gym). Anyone who enjoys nosatalgia basketball should visit there.
No one has mentioned why they called it the Dope Bag.

459esi
02-21-2007, 07:51 PM
All GCN members that have older relatives that played ball locally pre-WWII needs to ask them if they remember it. We may be able to retrieve some stories about it even if we can't solve the mystery of it's whereabouts.

I checked with Coach Sharp and the Dope Bag should be in the Indiana Basketball Museum.

Don Hoke
02-22-2007, 06:28 PM
The White River news has an eye witness account in it's Feb. 15 edition that places the Dope Bag in the Indiana Basketball Museum. Thanks to all for the input.

Don Hoke
02-24-2007, 10:03 AM
I checked with Coach Sharp and the Dope Bag should be in the Indiana Basketball Museum.

Digging through my Owensville notes I find the Kickapoos won the Dope Bag in 1958.
Owensville had the first glass backboards in the state. One is in the REH Center and the other is at the Basketball Hall of Fame in New Castle.

Arn
02-24-2007, 10:21 AM
We were at the hall of fame last year and saw the other glass backboard. I don't remember seeing the dope bag, but there is so much there that we may have looked right past it.

Don Hoke
04-18-2007, 06:48 PM
The Barr-Reeve and North Daviess high schools are located in an area populated with Amish and Mennonite families. A friend told me today the two teams compete every year for a trophy called the "Buggy Bowl".

Sybil Niemann
07-18-2008, 08:08 AM
Thought I'd get back into this old thread...yes, I saw the Dope Bag at the Indiana Basketball Hll of Fame in New Castle. I was there in July, 1990. They may rotate some of the exhibits; ss I don't know if it's currently being displayed, or not.

My dad was a school official and when our team won the Dope Bag, we actually took it to our house. I had the opportunity to look through it and examine the contents at my leisure. Each school that had the Dope Bag placed a ribbon inside, embroidered with the school's name. I can't remember any other details. If my dad were still alive, he could tell you anything you could think of to ask about it. He was a former coach and a died-in-the-wool high school basketball fan.

woodtrojans
07-18-2008, 12:00 PM
[QUOTE=Sybil Niemann].

My dad was a school official and when our team won the Dope Bag,QUOTE]

which team/school?

Sybil Niemann
07-18-2008, 01:08 PM
Patoka, but I think I also saw it when we lived in Posey County.

woodtrojans
07-18-2008, 02:07 PM
neat story...thanks for sharing

Sybil Niemann
07-18-2008, 02:49 PM
Those were the days....