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IronHorseman
07-16-2006, 08:34 PM
How high do you think gas prices will go?
I predict that within a year we will be paying $5.00 gal here in the tri-state.


Gas Price

Group: alt.discuss.state.indiana Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2006, 5:35pm From: samy43@webtv.net (Sheryl)
DIL just called and said gas was $4.00 in Springfield....35 miles from
us. It will be up here in a couple of days. Gessh???

Jigsaw
07-16-2006, 09:06 PM
Possibly. Maybe then people will finally get it that we cannot go on forever using gasoline. It's killing our ozone layer and overheating the oceans. I can hold on flying cars, but solar energy should've been widespread by now.

DARRELGENERUSSELBURG
07-16-2006, 11:17 PM
Driving a truck i can tell you the prices have NOT SLOWED DOWN THE CONGESTION.
I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT $5 will get some most likely the poorest.
But i would expect it will take around $10 a gallon for it to hit home with most and the interstate system was not built for this much traffic.
WHEN SOME MAJOR PROJECT LIKE IS GOING ON IN CHICAGO NOW IS DONE IT IS ALREADY 10 YEARS BEHIND.
Do i have any answers NO do i have suggestions YES , car pools,mass transit,less traveling vacations,using more tree hugging things like bio diesel,E gas,hybrid cars,

If gas and diesel hits $TO $7 RANGE PEOPLE MAY START TO CHANGE.
but LIKE THE REST OF YOU I AM JUST AS GUILTY.
And actually i would not mind a $1 OR $2 GAS TAX HIKE TO BOOST THIS ALONG FOR THESE REASONS STARVE THE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES BOOST THE AUTO INDUSTRY WITH NEW HYBRID RAPID SALES,NEW JOBS IN NEW RENEWABLE RESOURCES,JOBS WITH NEW MASS TRANSIT LIKE BULLET TRAINS,
BUT I THINK THE MAN YOU ALL LOVE TO HATE HAD THIS ALL FIGURED BACK IN 2000 AL GORE

IronHorseman
07-17-2006, 04:51 AM
What good will the "Nafta Expressway" I-69 be if no one can afford to drive?

Angeleyes
07-17-2006, 11:56 AM
DARRELGENE**********

$5.00 a gallon will hurt every teenager that has a job trying to make a little money... I don't think the poor are the only ones going to loss with the gas hike... Plus that is what makes it the saddest the POOR you speak about have a hard enough time making ends met now they won't even have the gas to get to work... I guess you don't mind handing out more welfare since they will lose their jobs... Maybe we can raise your taxes to supply all the extra welfare cases... DEMOCRATES :mad:

Angel

Big Goat
07-17-2006, 12:10 PM
If you are like me it doesn't matter how much gas is. I still have to drive to Evansville 5 days a week to work no matter what. The best I can do is buy a smaller car.

dbaldwin
07-17-2006, 01:13 PM
I am in the same boat as you Big Goat (E-ville 5 days a week) We actually bought a smaller engine car last summer for that reason. I guess if it keeps going up we could always get a motor scooter!!! lol

Mary Harkins
07-17-2006, 01:52 PM
Quit crying about the price of gas. If Bush had not invaded Iraq, gasoline would be $10 per gallon by now!

railroader
07-17-2006, 02:09 PM
Mary.
Have you never griped about the price of gas?

dbaldwin
07-17-2006, 02:49 PM
Railroader-- I am sure her broom doesn't require gas!!!!

ocwatchdog
07-17-2006, 03:13 PM
LMOA!!
runs on eye of newt!

DARRELGENERUSSELBURG
07-17-2006, 04:20 PM
Well the poor needs to walk to work of get jobs closer to home i guess,But the roads where not design to handle this much traffic.And i am really tired of supporting both sides of these wars with taxes for the war and oil prices supporting those who support the other sides.
Everything is about money you need more money for going to work the oil rich country needs more more money to pay the terorist.
We can buy more fuel efficent cars and trucks and use more renewable fuels and stop supporting the country's behind these people, but yes you need more money for your car to go to work for min wages .
Acutaly i can only see two solutions one is to reinact the draft and fight to the end for the oil or crash the wolrd econony and starve the country's that have oil and support the terroist to death.
We been sending Israel over 3 billion for over 50 years and it has not done anything to stop the wars.

How many billions of our taxes have we spent over the last fifty years to country's like Israel,Egyt,Iran,Iraq,Jordan and so on.
Why would anyone over there want to stop the fighting if the money flows from both direwction to keep fighting?

volunteer76
07-17-2006, 07:06 PM
gas is needed in everything we do everyday. everthing we buy takes some sort of fuel to get it from where it is made to where we buy it. i know i spend about $100 bucks a week in gas for my truck but for my job it reguires me to have a truck and to drive. hey big goat, do yoiu still have that formula? i bet it loves the gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mary Harkins
07-17-2006, 07:09 PM
Railroader, I have never complained about the price of gas or water. Why do you think our President wants amnesty for our illegal aliens? Why, to rebuild the railroads, of course.

db, you liberals ridicule me for supporting our President!

Jigsaw
07-17-2006, 11:22 PM
Quit crying about the price of gas. If Bush had not invaded Iraq, gasoline would be $10 per gallon by now!

Good, that means that ethanol cars would've come sooner and maybe global warming wouldn't be a problem.

TheAlien
07-18-2006, 12:55 AM
I heard a rumor: that our local oil tanks are depleted, and gas will go up to 4-5$/gallon. If so, the only place I'll be driving is to work and back.

IronHorseman
07-18-2006, 03:43 AM
Good, that means that ethanol cars would've come sooner and maybe global warming wouldn't be a problem.

We should have transitioned fom gas and petroleum based lubricants to ethanol and synthetic lubricants when we transitioned from carburetors to fuel injection.Let those towel heads keep their oil.

Big Goat
07-18-2006, 07:49 AM
gas is needed in everything we do everyday. everthing we buy takes some sort of fuel to get it from where it is made to where we buy it. i know i spend about $100 bucks a week in gas for my truck but for my job it reguires me to have a truck and to drive. hey big goat, do yoiu still have that formula? i bet it loves the gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yea, it’s in pieces at the Parents barn. I don’t think I will ever fix it back up. It hasn't been road worthy for many years.

woodtrojans
07-18-2006, 09:10 AM
If it goes over $3.50, my wife and I are car pooling to work. Although, I think it will hover around $2.95 - How much will we get ripped off if we try to trade in our gas hogs. (My truck gets 18 miles a gallon) When and If a huge gas crisis occurs. I think I would just keep my truck rather than take a big loss on it and drive with my wife, her car gets about 27 miles per gallon.

ocwatchdog
07-18-2006, 11:25 AM
jigsaw-

the theory of gobal warming is a about as definative and bigfoot!
just because Al Gore saw it is happening doesn't mean it is true, remember he also invented the internet!

Jigsaw
07-18-2006, 11:55 AM
Actually global warming is real. It caused the rise of 1 degree in ocean temperatures, which in turn could be the reason Hurrican Katrina was so devastating. The Ocean Temperatures had been the same for thousands of years until recently. The hole in the ozone layer didn't naturally occurr. Humans helped.

ocwatchdog
07-18-2006, 02:37 PM
Actually global warming is real. It caused the rise of 1 degree in ocean temperatures, which in turn could be the reason Hurricane Katrina was so devastating. The Ocean Temperatures had been the same for thousands of years until recently. The hole in the ozone layer didn't naturally occur. Humans helped.


statements like this is Y global warming is so shady!

Katrina was not devastating because of global warming, it was because of where it hit! do this Katrina was the first cat 5 hurricane ever?

UncleBob
07-18-2006, 09:27 PM
>Gas prices are high because the big oil companies control the price and our government lets them

Isn't that how it should be?

Jigsaw
07-19-2006, 01:29 AM
The common question right now: Should the government step in and put a cap on how high gas prices are so that it is fair to both the money hungry oil companies and the consumer? Perhaps. Or maybe we could find an alternative fuel. A few years ago in Arizona people were given the choice to purchase AFV's, which stands for Alternative Fuel Vehicles. They ran off of butane I believe and the government paid for half of the car if they chose this vehicle, thinking this would popularize them. The popularity leap didn't happen and so they stopped making AFV's. What a shame. We could really use them now.

IronHorseman
07-19-2006, 04:55 AM
The common question right now: Should the government step in and put a cap on how high gas prices are so that it is fair to both the money hungry oil companies and the consumer?



Only if you like living in a socialist country where everything is controlled by the government.

ocwatchdog
07-19-2006, 08:36 AM
have to agree with uncle bob on this one, they are just trying to make an extra buck!

UncleBob
07-19-2006, 09:35 AM
Guess what? We have socialism in our country. Bet you don't or won't turn down your social security check if you get one or will get one.

But that's only because the government has been forcibly taking that Social Security out of my paycheck since I was 16.

Uncle Bob, Have you ever heard of price gouging? Its illegal. The government is supposed to prevent it.

I've also heard of Supply and Demand. Outside of that, the government looked into the "price gouging" complaints and said it wasn't happening.

ocwatchdog
07-19-2006, 10:35 AM
U think the price of gas is bad, U should take a look at the steel, bronze, brass, copper, aluminium, and titaium prices. most are 5-7 times as much as just 3 years ago!

UncleBob
07-19-2006, 11:02 AM
I don't believe everything that the government tells the public. I have little trust in politicians, especially Democrats and Republicans. I was told I was fighting to save democracy when I got drafted and sent to Vietnam but when I got there I found that we were only fighting to make money for the big industrialists who were making a fortune from the war. As far as I'm concerned the 50,000 or so of the soldiers who gave their lives over there were sacrificed by LBJ. The very same thing is going on in Iraq right now. All of our soldiers that have been killed our wounded have done this for big oil and not for democracy.

So, regardless of "price gouging", if "big oil" wants to charge $10 a gallon for their product, do you not think it is their right to do so?

Kurt M. Weber
07-19-2006, 02:06 PM
Uncle Bob, Have you ever heard of price gouging? Its illegal. The government is supposed to prevent it.

Are you familiar with the "is/ought" fallacy?

Just because something is illegal does not mean that it should be.

Kurt M. Weber
07-19-2006, 02:22 PM
If the federal government would deem high prices on gas a serious threat to our economy, such as sending us into runaway inflation,
The only way that could happen is if the money supply is increased--and the way things have been going for the past several years, it doesn't look like that could happen anytime soon.

General inflation (as opposed to inflation in just one sector) is a purely monetary phenomenon--that is, it is dependent upon the total amount of money available.

Money is added to the economy through loans--by changing the rates it charges on loans to banks, the Federal Reserve Open Market Committee can affect the attractiveness of consumer and business loans and thus the amount of money added to the economy.

Without an increase in the money supply, a rise in prices in one good or class of goods must be matched by a corresponding decrease in other goods--because there is only so much money to go around. A seller cannot charge more for his product than his customers have available to spend, assuming he wishes to sell anything. If I get $100/week, and I spent $75 on gasoline, then the grocer cannot charge me more than $25/week. If this is a general trend economy-wide, then the sum total of the tradeoffs that EVERYONE is forced to make will create severe pressure on sellers to reduce costs so that they can sell their goods at a price people are actually able to afford and still make a profit.

So, large-scale inflation cannot occur without government intervention.

"At the root of all bad economic thinking is a complete ignorance of basic thermodynamics"--Me

they have the right to impose controls on the price of fuel.
No, they don't.

They can get away with it--because they have the guns and the tanks and the bombers--but that doesn't make it legitimate.

check out Jimmy Carter in the last big supposed fuel shortage (wage and price controls were put into effect)
You're reversing cause-and-effect there, buddy. The shortages were caused because, at the prices imposed by the price ceilings, producers were not willing to produce enough to satisfy the demand that existed at those prices.

We know today there was no shortage of fuel in the 70's.
Except, there was--or haven't you seen the pictures of the long lines at gas stations?

I am not against anyone gettin fair profit from selling a service or product
Define "fair profit".

I would define "fair profit" as "the difference of whatever customers are willing to pay minus costs incurred".

IronHorseman
07-19-2006, 03:18 PM
Guess what? We have socialism in our country. Bet you don't or won't turn down your social security check if you get one or will get one.

I`m not betting my future on socilized retirement.I don`t even expect to recieve it,I plan on staying out of debt investing and taking care of myself.

queenie
07-19-2006, 04:53 PM
Kurt...You were not born yet. But in the 70 there was no shortage of gas or oil. The U.S. has storage tanks in about 5 states the the Gov. does not want to tap into yet. May have too some day but back than no way so we had long lines and high prices. NO CALL FOR IT than or now.

Daughter of Tall Tree

Big Goat
07-20-2006, 11:15 AM
Guess what? We have socialism in our country. Bet you don't or won't turn down your social security check if you get one or will get one.
No, I would rather keep my money and put it in a 401k or a savings account. The return on investment is higher.

ocwatchdog
07-20-2006, 02:13 PM
do we need to bring back the wambulance?

Kurt M. Weber
07-20-2006, 04:14 PM
It's a figure of speech...

UncleBob
07-20-2006, 04:57 PM
How could I be Kurt's buddy when I have never met the person? I don't think he knows me. Maybe he is looking for new friends. I knew a couple of girls by last name Weber a long time ago but I'm sure I don't know Kurt.

::Family Feud Style:: Good answer, good answer! ::claps::

MISSABOS
07-20-2006, 05:51 PM
Perhaps Kurt was referring to "Buddy" that used to sell gum in the post office. I understand that he had a good business there even though there was not a "high demand"

Jerry D
07-20-2006, 06:17 PM
It's a figure of speech...

A figure of speech is used to achieve a particular effect. What effect were you looking for Kurt?

ocwatchdog
07-21-2006, 07:50 AM
bud·dy [ búddee ]


noun (plural bud·dies)

Definition:

1. friend: a good friend, coworker, companion, or partner ( informal )

would u rather have him say "hey you, a**hole" instead!

and before u start going on about this, I AM NOT CALLING U AN A**HOLE!

ocwatchdog
07-21-2006, 10:43 AM
Hey, that's OK with me. I,m sure I have had several students call me that at times. As long as he knows me then he can form an opinion and call me whatever. But if he doesn't know me then why would he refer to me as his buddy?

U have major "buddy" issues:confused:

Jigsaw
07-21-2006, 03:35 PM
Topics like this make me laugh...

mouth_wide_shut_06
07-21-2006, 03:44 PM
Topics like this make me laugh...


hey Jig,

me too... lmaoooo... I'd say stick a corn cob in it and lets gooooo...
hmm... corn = bio-desiel :confused: gas prices :eek:

ok what about this.... government is in kahoots w/ auto manufacters to change society w/ hybrids... when there really isnt a shortage after all?? When there actually isnt any oil problems.. Where is Maulder?

queenie
07-21-2006, 07:21 PM
X hs Teacher

Hey you don;t know Kurt......he is so intelligent...he would make you look like a fourth grader.Buddy

Daughter of Tall Tree

Tumbleweed
07-21-2006, 07:34 PM
x hs teacher,

Were you a high school teacher?
How many years in the classroom?
What subjects did you teach?

Just wondering. Answer if you like or ignore. Your choice.

queenie
07-21-2006, 08:34 PM
x hs teacher just because you taught all those classes does not make you smart. And ALL OLD MEN ARE NOT WISE MEN.BUDDY

Daughter of Tall Tree

MISSABOS
07-21-2006, 08:39 PM
I used to have a chicken named Queenie....seriously.

UncleBob
07-21-2006, 09:37 PM
Hey now, buddy, I never said you upset me.

PriestFan
07-22-2006, 07:55 AM
x hs teacher,

If you're still on here, I was just curious how and what all you taught in your history of Rock and Roll class. I love the history of Rock and Roll, but mostly individual bands and performers.

UncleBob
07-22-2006, 08:54 AM
http://http://www.marshallhall.org/hanson.html

And I promise this is the final post and only because many, including Kurt, did not know who was the first President of the United States was his name was John Hanson. George Washington was the eighth President.

Incorrect. John Hanson was President of the Continental Congress (or, if you perfer, the official title of "President of the United States in Congress Assembled") - a role that was quite different than "President of the United States".

If you *really* want to consider the person in charge of Congress to be "President", then you'd have to say that Samuel Huntington was the first "President", followed second by Thomas McKean - two people who held the exact position and did the exact same duties as Mr. Hanson.

Jerry D
07-22-2006, 09:37 AM
Judas Priest Fan This is only for your info and I really plan to stay off. Our Principal wanted an elective in social studies that would attract students. My daughter had taken two semesters of The History of Rock and Roll at IU and I suggested that course not thinking she would go with it but she did. It would be hard for most schools to pull it off because of the library of music that you would have to have. We wanted it to last two semesters. But I have a collection of well over 1200 CDs and they ranged from the beginnings of Rock and Roll up near the present and that, I could borrow from my son and daughter who were college and high school aged. There were no text books and I got all my source material from the internet and put it on transparencies for the class to read and copy. I relied heavily on All Music Guide. It is unbelievabe what info they have. If you have never tried it go there. The school purchased us a nice sound system and put us in the auditorium so we could turn it up and play rock and roll the way its supposed to be played ( Very LOUD) We started with Black Blues and Gospel and headed up the years with such eras as Rockabilly , Doo Wop, Girl Groups, (the fifties era) British Invasion, Psychedelic, Progressive, Hard Rock, (the Sixties) and on into American Metal, British Metal (yes we played Priest) Punk and on and on up to present You can't believe how many genres there are of rock and roll. I tried to relate all of the music to what was going on in American society at the time the music was being played and why kids related to it. For example, Protest Music. Alas when I retired a couple of years ago the class was canceled because no one had the music to play. I did go to IU and observe Professor Gass's famous class which is nationally known and confered with him by internet on our class. Not only was this class immensley popular with the students but most of the faculty told me they wished they could take it. By the way I have always had a love for rock and roll music and have a butt kicking sound system in my home to still play it. My favorite modern group right now is KINGS X.


Good luck x hs teacher. Keep playing the music loud and clear.

queenie
07-22-2006, 10:04 AM
x hs teacher.....As a Born Again Christian i must accept your apologie. So i have.
Daughter of Tall Tree

krazy68
07-22-2006, 10:42 AM
http://http://www.marshallhall.org/hanson.html

And I promise this is the final post and only because many, including Kurt, did not know who was the first President of the United States was his name was John Hanson. George Washington was the eighth President.

You seem to be making some assumptions here. Since you are an ex-military man, I am sure you know what happens when you assume.

UncleBob
07-22-2006, 10:52 PM
Okay, I'm pulling this list directly from Wikipedia - which must be taken with a grain of salt, but I'm sure I've read before about John Hanson not being the "first" president.

The following men served as the President of the First Continental Congress:

* Peyton Randolph (September 5, 1774 – October 21, 1774) and
* Henry Middleton (October 22, 1774 – October 26, 1774)

The following men served as the President of the Second Continental Congress:

* Peyton Randolph (May 10, 1775 – May 23, 1775)
* John Hancock (May 24, 1775 – October 31, 1777)
* Henry Laurens (November 1, 1777 – December 9, 1778)
* John Jay (December 10, 1778 – September 27, 1779)
* Samuel Huntington (September 28, 1779 – March 1, 1781)

The following men served as President of the United States in Congress Assembled:

* Samuel Huntington (March 1, 1781 – July 9, 1781)
* Thomas McKean (July 10, 1781 – November 4, 1781)
* John Hanson (November 5, 1781 – November 3, 1782)
* Elias Boudinot (November 4, 1782 – November 2, 1783)
* Thomas Mifflin (November 3, 1783 – October 31, 1784)
* Richard Henry Lee (November 30, 1784 – November 6, 1785)
* John Hancock (November 23, 1785 – May 29, 1786)
* Nathaniel Gorham (June 6, 1786 – November 5, 1786)
* Arthur St. Clair (February 2, 1787 – November 4, 1787)
* Cyrus Griffin (January 22, 1788 – November 2, 1788)


The Articles of Confederation were finally ratified on March 1, 1781. Other sources also confirm the date of November 5th for Mr. Hanson. While Samuel Huntington was a carry-over from the Second Continental Congress and served until his health put him in a position that he was unable to serve, Thomas McKean was elected and was the first to actually use "President of the United States" as his official title.

So, no, I wasn't confusing the First and Second Continental Congress with anything. Also, assuming this list is correct (which I have no reason to believe it isn't), it would make Mr. Washington the so-called "9th President" if you want to count Mr. Hanson as the first.

Was there a point to any of this?

UncleBob
07-22-2006, 11:23 PM
President Who? Forgotten Founders (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0975262750/sr=8-1/qid=1153631545/ref=sr_1_1/104-5658051-2512743?ie=UTF8) by Stanley L. Klos details the history of our first "Ten Presidents" of the 'United States'.

Samuel Huntington's Bio (http://famousamericans.net/SamuelHuntington/)

Thomas McKean's Bio (http://famousamericans.net/thomasmckean/)

John Hanson's Bio (http://famousamericans.net/johnhanson/)

Site contaning much of x hs teacher's eariler post (http://www.marshallhall.org/hanson.html)

mommaluke
07-23-2006, 12:45 AM
Gas Prices?

Jigsaw
07-23-2006, 01:57 AM
Yes, gas prices! They are out of control. It's time we switched to a new fuel source. Still can't believe solar energy hasn't been widespread yet. Solar energy doesn't pollute, it's almost free, it will be there for our entire lives, and everyone has access to it.

krazy68
07-23-2006, 06:33 AM
I am making absolutely no assumptions and what is printed came directly out of historical research which you can check on the internet or any American History book on the subject. Uncle Bob has confused the First and Second Continental Congresses as an official government. They were temoporary legislative bodies that directed the colonies before and thru the Revolutionary War simply because thats all there was to govern at that time. As soon as the Revolutionary War concluded the new states formed the Articles of Confederation which was our first true government. John Hanson was its first President. What I placed on this site for your information came directly from a site on the net and not directly from me. If you don't want to believe that that's OK with me.


Sorry. The assumption I was talking about is that just because people chose not to play your game you assumed they didn't know the answer.

rwhelm
07-29-2006, 11:19 AM
good to know you people know how to use google.

UncleBob
07-29-2006, 11:41 AM
I know, it's an amazing tool. I bet you could look up Gas Prices from almost anywhere on there!

rwhelm
07-29-2006, 11:43 AM
I bet your right Uncle Bob. And by the way, you have an excellent name.

Lifeguard
07-29-2006, 12:37 PM
Quit crying about the price of gas. If Bush had not invaded Iraq, gasoline would be $10 per gallon by now!

I really think you are on drugs...

SouthSide
08-01-2006, 02:37 PM
High gas prices does make us think MORE about alternative fuel sources and conservation. Too bad that's the only way to get us to think about them. :(

beck804
08-31-2006, 04:00 PM
I am in the same boat as you Big Goat (E-ville 5 days a week) We actually bought a smaller engine car last summer for that reason. I guess if it keeps going up we could always get a motor scooter!!! lol

I did by a motor scooter last year from LaGrange Performance Machines. It was great. I got nearly 78 mpg with it, but the need for more power hit me. Not to mention the stereo-typing looks I got from people. Scooters have the mindset to be DUI machines. Anway, I only live 4.5 miles from my job and scooters are a great way to go, but if you are in need for speed just get a motorcycle. :)

ocwatchdog
09-01-2006, 07:19 AM
heard on fox 7 this morning gas prices could hit $2.00 by thanksgiving, so that people willspend it on christmas items, great idea to get all of us the spend the extra savings at the pump intsead of saving it for when it goes back up.

My Chemical Romance
09-01-2006, 08:18 AM
$2.41 at Flying J's this morning at 6am

It seems to be the cheapest in the 8th District. Odd.

beck804
09-01-2006, 10:00 AM
$2.41 at Flying J's this morning at 6am

It seems to be the cheapest in the 8th District. Odd.

My guess is it will shoot up to $2.60 or higher late this afternoon and they will blame it on the storms; but in reality its just the long weekend and people will be on the road.

SouthSide
09-06-2006, 10:02 PM
$2.27 at 41 & 64 today! Hope it keeps going lower! But, why is it still $2.56 in princeton?

TheAlien
09-06-2006, 10:20 PM
Because they can.
We traded our Durango for a Malibu, and saving half the gas. Now that gas has gone down in price, no regrets.
Maybe we should all stop buying gas in Princeton, and go out to Pilot on 41. Might teach them a lesson.

SouthSide
09-09-2006, 09:41 AM
$2.23 at Flying J !!:D

turk182
11-11-2006, 08:33 PM
Funny how gas just shot up after the elections!! ;) Went up twice today.

IronHorseman
11-11-2006, 08:40 PM
Funny how gas just shot up after the elections!! ;) Went up twice today.

I`m sure tree hugging DemonRats will raise gas taxes to save the "Save the enviroment".

My Chemical Romance
11-11-2006, 10:53 PM
I`m sure tree hugging DemonRats will raise gas taxes to save the "Save the enviroment".


This picture about says it...

SHOULTZN2006
11-13-2006, 05:55 AM
Sure Bush invaded IRAQ.
That is why so many US soldiers have died.
SIDEBAR: What evidence the USA is benefitting from the IRAQI OIL?
Is IRAQI oil going to the same place the MILLIONS $$$ plus
went when TV showed photos of MILLIONS of American dollars
found behind secret walls when our soldiers first got to Bagdad?

Oh so soon some forget!!!!

smokie
11-13-2006, 09:27 PM
It's November and production is shifting to heating oils. Supply & Demand, not elections, determine fuel prices.

krazy68
11-14-2006, 04:38 AM
It's November and production is shifting to heating oils. Supply & Demand, not elections, determine fuel prices.

Is that from the same people who say gas is more expensive in the summer because people are traveling more?

ocwatchdog
01-17-2007, 12:03 PM
Gas Is $1.85 @ The Flying J!!!

smokie
01-17-2007, 08:52 PM
Funny how gas just shot up after the elections!! ;) Went up twice today.
Hmmmmm...........

Is there an election coming up?

:D

IronHorseman
01-18-2007, 08:25 PM
Don`t worry the DemonRats are working hard to drive up gas prices. They don`t understand that these taxes will be paid by the consumer at the pump.

House passes bill forcing Big Oil to pay - Oil & Energy - MSNBC.com
Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16691568/

just me
01-20-2007, 11:29 PM
Don`t worry the DemonRats are working hard to drive up gas prices. They don`t understand that these taxes will be paid by the consumer at the pump.

House passes bill forcing Big Oil to pay - Oil & Energy - MSNBC.com
Address:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16691568/
so what do you think, keep letting the rich get richer? Well I don't like them getting all the breaks! Give the common person a break! That is what they are trying to do for us, you just don't like it because the democrats are doing it, if it was Bush you would be all for it.

UncleBob
01-21-2007, 07:06 AM
so what do you think, keep letting the rich get richer? Well I don't like them getting all the breaks! Give the common person a break! That is what they are trying to do for us, you just don't like it because the democrats are doing it, if it was Bush you would be all for it.

Yeah! Those damn rich people... punish them more just for being rich!

smokie
01-21-2007, 09:56 AM
Gas Is $1.85 @ The Flying J!!!
$1.81 this morning. $1.79 at the Flying J at Indy.

I'll bet it's still around $1.91 +/- in Princeton....... :rolleyes:

IronHorseman
01-22-2007, 12:48 PM
so what do you think, keep letting the rich get richer? Well I don't like them getting all the breaks! Give the common person a break! That is what they are trying to do for us, you just don't like it because the democrats are doing it, if it was Bush you would be all for it.

Let me explain this AGAIN! When the cost of providing a service or producing a product goes up the consumer pays that price.

smokie
01-23-2007, 03:45 PM
I predict that within a year we will be paying $5.00 gal here in the Tri-State.
You may want to revise that back a little, we are six months into that year and the prices are going the other way.

just me
01-24-2007, 10:35 AM
How high do you think gas prices will go?
I predict that within a year we will be paying $5.00 gal here in the tri-state.


Gas Price

Group: alt.discuss.state.indiana Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2006, 5:35pm From: samy43@webtv.net (Sheryl)
DIL just called and said gas was $4.00 in Springfield....35 miles from
us. It will be up here in a couple of days. Gessh???
Yea if Bush had his way it would be $5.00 a gal.

smokie
01-24-2007, 10:48 AM
Yea if Bush had his way it would be $5.00 a gal.Now, that's just about one of the dummest posts I've read on here!

IronHorseman
01-24-2007, 11:30 AM
You may want to revise that back a little, we are six months into that year and the prices are going the other way.

Wait until, the current stocks are exhausted. When the democrat tax increase on oil companies and the new minimum wage staryt driving up prices we are going to suffer.If we don`t increase our refining capacity we are all going to be gas poor as demand outstrips supply.

SHOULTZN2006
01-02-2008, 01:08 PM
:eek: Quit crying about the price of gas. If Bush had not invaded Iraq, gasoline would be $10 per gallon by now!

At the price of continuing the IRAQ war few os us (except oild johnnies) will be able to buy gas at any price. QUESTION: DO YOU PAY TAXES?

Then figure it out:mad:

Pynk Fairy Wyngs
01-02-2008, 02:36 PM
Oil hit the record high today of $100 a barrel. I see some stations here in town have spiked as much as ten cents in a few hours. Who bets its over $3.25 a gallon by Sat. morning...

IronHorseman
01-02-2008, 03:24 PM
Every time a camel breaks wind in the middle east the price of gas flucuates.
It`s past time to switch to alcohol fuel.

towering-inferno
01-03-2008, 01:37 AM
celluostic alcohol will not be our savior alone, it will help though. I am looking for more companies to start turning into algae harvesting for a more efficient type of ethanol rather than corn.

Mark my words GCN posters, duke energy will lease, or use themselves, their ponds outside of the princeton station for algae farms within the next 15 years (so 2023).....i'll bet a 20 (or dinner, whichever wont get me arrested) on it hahah any takers?

IronHorseman
01-03-2008, 05:02 AM
celluostic alcohol will not be our savior alone, it will help though. I am looking for more companies to start turning into algae harvesting for a more efficient type of ethanol rather than corn.

Mark my words GCN posters, duke energy will lease, or use themselves, their ponds outside of the princeton station for algae farms within the next 15 years (so 2023).....i'll bet a 20 (or dinner, whichever wont get me arrested) on it hahah any takers?

Iw we had transitioned from gas to alcoholans symnthetic lubricants at the time we switched from caruretors to fuel injection things would bemuch different today.

bodine
01-03-2008, 06:00 AM
Mark my words GCN posters, duke energy will lease, or use themselves, their ponds outside of the princeton station for algae farms within the next 15 years (so 2023).....i'll bet a 20 (or dinner, whichever wont get me arrested) on it hahah any takers?

I very much doubt that towering, the water is for cooling purposes, algae is fowling, and would be hard to keep from being sucked into the plant. The ash ponds, maybe, but not the main cooling lake. That would be system unfriendly, trust me.

towering-inferno
01-03-2008, 08:20 PM
Bodine,
after looking back at the couple articles i was looking at yesterday i realize you're definately right, The ash ponds were what i was referring to. I know some companies are doing alot of research and leasing of CO2 emitting generating station's auxillary ponds to harvest algae for ethanol production.

bodine
01-04-2008, 07:23 PM
I know some companies are doing alot of research and leasing of CO2 emitting generating station's auxillary ponds to harvest algae for ethanol production.

You are also correct, in that CO2 mitigation from flue gas through biomass systems, (algae etc), can then also be further be used as biodiesel etc. Much R&D is taking place on pollutant conversion through natural processes.

UncleBob
01-04-2008, 08:13 PM
$1.81 this morning. $1.79 at the Flying J at Indy.

I'll bet it's still around $1.91 +/- in Princeton....... :rolleyes:

Who wishes gas was still around $1.91 in Princeton? ;) ;) ;)

Those were the days...

IronHorseman
01-04-2008, 08:18 PM
Who wishes gas was still around $1.91 in Princeton? ;) ;) ;)

Those were the days...

I would rather see $.78

UncleBob
01-04-2008, 08:43 PM
I would rather see $.78

Well, I'd rather see free, but let's be realistic. ;)

IronHorseman
01-04-2008, 08:51 PM
Well, I'd rather see free, but let's be realistic. ;)

I`m being realistic or at least nostalgic. I fed a lot of $.78 gas to a 8mpg Camaro.

cphelps
01-05-2008, 05:17 AM
I`m being realistic or at least nostalgic. I fed a lot of $.78 gas to a 8mpg Camaro.


I'm sure! My dad talks about when he was younger buying cars off the showroom floor that were nearly drag strip ready, who cared about fuel economy!!!